Free Speech, Hate Speech, the UN and Youtube

9 04 2011

Hate speech is basically an impossible concept. All you have to do is turn up your sensitivities and then EVERYTHING counts as hate speech. Due to its subjective nature its essentially unworkable. Islam is very good at getting offended by almost anything, as is scientology. Both are very heavy on trying to classify people who call them on their psychotic beliefs as hate-mongers. Further the recent UN resolution to attempt to criminalize blasphemy is both a step in the wrong direction and is unworkable. However when people are using their free speech to advocate the killing of others, they have broken the law. But what to do when such a minority constitutes a significant portion of the population? Options include education of western values, imprisonment, or segregation. Naturally if they can present a convincing argument in an open forum for changing the law, then thats fair enough, but before you have to acknowledge that you are not allowed to threaten anyone who disagrees with you with death or violence. Finally youtube. C0ctapus got suspended. He helped out with our recent protest against youtube. Apparently no reason was given. I dont remember too much about his videos other than they were of a similar topic (the problems with religion etc) to this channel. He also was a supporter of free speech. Thetaomega had a satire of Fred Phelps taken down: http://www.youtube.com C0ct0pus is back at: http://www.youtube.com
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25 responses

9 04 2011
jonLukasC

I disagree with you saying we need the UN. I dont think we do

9 04 2011
FuckinOathMate

I want to glass Fred Phelps.

9 04 2011
ubaid156

free speech not for liars!

9 04 2011
Cougar139tweak

Free speech is important as the idiots are easier to spot when they can speak freely.

9 04 2011
TheThedot

Fuck the UN. There is no such thing as hate speech, only weak people who can not debate facts or issues, so they cry hate speech.

9 04 2011
LilChuckyWoodenHead

HATE SPEECH IS SIMPLY ANY SPEECH THAT ANY PERSON WHO RESENTS IT SEE’S IT AS SUCH….. NOT YOUR POINT OF VIEW….. THEN IT’S HATE SPEECH. YES….. IT CAN BE JUST THAT SIMPLE ! …… MOST DICTATORS WOULD DECLARE AND BAN THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO THEM AS “HATE SPEECH MONGERS” THAT HAS BEEN DONE MANY TIMES BEFORE AND WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.

9 04 2011
n0s1r

(continuation) of the total sentence (including time, fees, restitution, etc) given to the person who actually committed the act.

Once again, I am all for free speech. COMPLETELY FREE SPEECH. I believe everybody should be free to say WHATEVER they want in ANY WAY they so desire, but I also believe they should take responsibility for what they say as well.

Basically I am sick of people equating the notion of free speech to “I am not responsible for my words”.

9 04 2011
n0s1r

(continuation) I believe society in general would benefit from a law that states if there is VIDEO evidence (cameras are very prevalent on account of camcorders and camera phones being very affordable) of you using your free speech to incite violence against a particular person or group and at a later date ACTUAL violence occurs and against that person or group in a way that results in a conviction you can be put on trial and if found guilty you receive a sentence equal to 10% (continued)

9 04 2011
n0s1r

The free speech debate get tricky when it comes to matters such as purposefully inciting violence. The break comes in at the junction where words and actions are two completely different things, but words can indeed inspire actions.

I am all for COMPLETELY free speech. I am also for COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY for you speech. With that notion I believe there is a very SIMPLE solution to this matter. (continued)

9 04 2011
TheNamelessCharacter

Fuck you Fred Phelps. If you ever come here to Australia and say that, I will have my Kangaroo kick your nuts in before you get lynched.

9 04 2011
Hypastpist

what does WBC dont hate? beside themselves

9 04 2011
JSAautomotive

@Brendandugan responds to me on a page 2 days ago & says this to me…..

“JSA, perhaps in 1975, the word “faggot” was offensive towards gays. Live in the now kiddo. It is used in the same context as “loser”. Gay people have worked hard to advance themselves in society and do not need some nitwit like yourself setting them back. Now, stick to your non-thinking job and change someones transmission fluid you buffoon. Let the educated handle everything else.”

Tell him why “faggot” is offensive.

9 04 2011
GLICKTON

SAVE FREE SPEECH!!!, the government are trying to take over the internet then put a tax on it, help save it by signing this petition please!! GO TO petition.org.au

9 04 2011
MATTDUNCAN1

who cares what they say…they feed on your anger..ignore them ..or..laugh at them..don’t ever empower them

9 04 2011
superwhuffo1

also read my free book…simply search: The Dawn of Intelligence

9 04 2011
superwhuffo1

okay thunderf00t here is what you do…just search
America: Prison, slaves, and religion
and once you are there go to the bottom of that article and copy and past the link to A Couple Questions. Use this great info from the bible to do a great video. I look foward to seeing it.

9 04 2011
superwhuffo1

Very good…you do such good work…i wish you would do a video from A Couple Questions on my blog.

9 04 2011
jannevellamo

@gordinidesigns The problem is, some people do not want a dialog of any sort, as they already are in possession of the ultimate truth, which demands a monopoly on speech. Differing opinions are punishable by death or torture. Any attempt at dialog will be construed as denial of the only truth. This is an invitation to teach you the truth at gunpoint. Reason is the worst enemy of such people, so independent thinkers get shot first. Good luck reasoning with them! I do wish you were right, though.

9 04 2011
silentonall

Is this hate speech? :

I hurt you
I’m not sorry
It does you good
Listen to it scream!

Is that hate speech?……….Anyone…?

9 04 2011
gordinidesigns

Name calling= Ignorance. True dialog with reason generally expands knowledge, thus less conflict.

9 04 2011
IllWilledandhappy

@samarat1 Watch “God Hates Australia” That will show his absolute idiocy

9 04 2011
GoodByeKyle

Fred Phelps kills me 😀

9 04 2011
Hellzyead

yeah, youtube is pretty pathetic when it comes to freedom of speech

9 04 2011
crazyinsane500

@VeritasTruthEmet Fred is not comedy, he’s just a comic foil to someone who does not exist. It’s like the sidekicks you see in a cheesy kid’s film. They are so stock and one dimensional that if you had a show based on their life, it would turn out to be Fred. And let’s face it, we all need a little bit of something to be offended by, otherwise how do we find a tolerance for it? Just like how fat people often don’t take offense to being called fat and nigger is a synonym for “friend.” Progress.

9 04 2011
somaticcinema

Good stuff, thunderfoot… as usual.




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